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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 6:38:45 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Jul 30, 2005 6:38:45 GMT -5
how many people here like the huge push he is getting?
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 9:44:15 GMT -5
Post by ddp on Jul 30, 2005 9:44:15 GMT -5
i can't stand jbl i think he makes a worthless champion but thats just me.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 9:55:18 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Jul 30, 2005 9:55:18 GMT -5
same here, i hate him. i can see why at No Way Out 2004 they had lesnar drop the title (sucks he dropped it to eddie) because he was fighting goldberg at WM 20. then someone had the bright idea of giving the title to JBL for almost a year. people complain that HHH has it a lot but look at SD. the worst thing is having undertaker lose to JBL repeatedly. i may be wrong but i dont think since undertakers return hes beaten JBL.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 12:27:29 GMT -5
Post by Kujo on Jul 30, 2005 12:27:29 GMT -5
I don't mind him really. I liked his push alot at first and while he has done good with it I think it's been going along too long now. Lately his character has been getting stale and he needs a little re-vamp.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 13:12:14 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Jul 30, 2005 13:12:14 GMT -5
i hope sometime soon they let undertaker win a match that isnt ending hussans career or a wrestlemania. they have made undertaker and kane into a joke by making taker lose control of the matches so easily and having the "monster" stage of kane losing to edge because of a breifcase. a while ago HHH hit kane with a sledge hammer and it didnt do anything, now they have kane lose because of chasing lita. personally i think the writers are retarted and need to make better storylines for the bigger stars.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 17:36:53 GMT -5
Post by RawManiac on Jul 30, 2005 17:36:53 GMT -5
JBL was cool.... 5 months ago. Now he is getting to me like HHH did. We need a new person in the Title race other than JBL. Give Eddie a push. gods knows he deserves it, and have him face off against Batista. Or Angle, or even Booker T. I just hate seeing the same person every week faighting for the title. I think moving Big Show to Raw was a bad move because he was a legitimate contender for the title on Smackdown. Maybe this guy "The Boogeyman" will be Batista's new opponent. I think it'd be a clash of the monsters since Boogeyman is pretty big.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 18:19:39 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Jul 30, 2005 18:19:39 GMT -5
i watch raw and laugh when Jericho says "Raw is Jericho" because he doesnt mean it. he should say "SD is JBL" because thats how it is. somehow JBL works his way into most of the angles with his connection to orlando jordan so he can cover 2 titles at once. it wouldnt suprise me if next week on SD JBL comes out and tells eddie hes a liar and he is rey mysterios sons father.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 18:22:44 GMT -5
Post by RawManiac on Jul 30, 2005 18:22:44 GMT -5
JBL is probaby Rey's daddy for all SD purposes.
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 20:18:02 GMT -5
Post by JSD on Jul 30, 2005 20:18:02 GMT -5
You know, what, JBL is just doing his job. He's found his nich in the company as that weasly little heel that shouldn't win, but does. I'll give it to you guys that his gimmick of barely scraping by is getting a little old, but I personally like JBL. It's really not his fault that WWE writers can't come up with something more creative for him other than squeaking by with DQ wins and ambush attacks. Maybe the cabinet needs to officially be broken up and then he can feud with Orlando for a little while over the US belt. Otherwise, I'd have to say JBL has done a stand up job of making his character truly hateable, the exact same way that hHh has made his character hateable. By being on top and winning when nobody wants him to.
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Stormcat
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 20:26:20 GMT -5
Post by Stormcat on Jul 30, 2005 20:26:20 GMT -5
Now, I'm a fan of John Layfield, he's one of the few people on Smackdown that actually have a personality that people can relate to (I'm not saying like, I said relate, there's a difference). I'll admit, at first I hated JBL, but it was him feuding with Undertaker that made me like him, no offence to Mark Calloway, he should retire though. Now he's on my top 5 in WWE currently.
And if you hate what angles they do with him, blaim the Crack Smackdown writing team (as in, the Smackdown writing team on Crack), they are ruining Professional Wrestling as we know it. I hate you Stephanie McMahon!
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slashstevens
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 23:32:20 GMT -5
Post by slashstevens on Jul 30, 2005 23:32:20 GMT -5
I am a JBL fan, I think he had the long title regin because no one else on smackdown needed it. The long title reign and him constantly vieing for it makes his charichter. He could use some in ring skills. But then again, HHH, Cena, Undertaker, Masters, ext...
JBL can cut a promo and manages to walk that border between face and heel well. He has proven to the wrestling world he has longevity, while no one else on Smackdown really has that or deserves the belt. Lets face it Undertkae has longevity, but he lame anymore. I can't stand Mark anymore, good when he first started, but now it's pretty old.
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mattman
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JBL
Jul 30, 2005 23:39:27 GMT -5
Post by mattman on Jul 30, 2005 23:39:27 GMT -5
I am with slash JBL and christian are the only wrestlers on SD that desirve the belt.. they both have charisma and JBL has heat and that is what makes him good. You may not like him because he is heel and what not but i like him because he isnt face and he likes to cheap shot and what not.
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JBL
Jul 31, 2005 2:02:22 GMT -5
Post by Ace Rimmer, Attorney at Large on Jul 31, 2005 2:02:22 GMT -5
when it comes to JBL i view him the same way as i view HHH, just on a diffrent show (except the past few weeks where HHH has not been on). but they just KEEP giving JBL a push, its annoying. he had his push, he had his Rematch against Cena, he had his shot at Batista, let it go. let Christian or hell even Booker have a shot at the title. let Taker get a shot, it would have been nice for Hassan if UPN werent straight bitches, and yelling TERRORIST everywhere, he would have been awesome to go after the title. but there are lots that can go after the title, but they just keep giving it to JBL... damned HHH...er... JBL.
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JBL
Jul 31, 2005 14:00:53 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Jul 31, 2005 14:00:53 GMT -5
the only thing about JBL i respect is that he is there on every SD. well i guess that doesnt mean anything since wrestlers like christian work every show too. theres one thing im not clear on and maybe someone can fill me in on it. wasnt JBL one of the acolytes with farooq and they were part of the ministry/corperate ministry? then after farooq left he wrestled people like billy gunn and val venis (where he should be now) then faded into the midcard level. i guess SD must take a dart board and throw darts at it to see who the next big push was, because next is JBL. they are making SD turn into WCW with all the push on SD being of one character (look at animals return and how the show was still all about JBL). as a matter of fact i bet i would rather watch WCW Thunder instead of SD right now.
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JBL
Jul 31, 2005 17:37:48 GMT -5
Post by ddp on Jul 31, 2005 17:37:48 GMT -5
agreed smackdown is going down hill JBL had his push its over. As for a fact i rather see the undertaker with that belt befire i would see jbl with it. How many times are they gonna make him job before the put that strap around his waist one more time before he actually retires. I myself would rather of seen batista vs undertaker at summerslam instead of JBL.
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mattman
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JBL
Jul 31, 2005 18:53:32 GMT -5
Post by mattman on Jul 31, 2005 18:53:32 GMT -5
the undertaker is over he is a has been. He is boring to watch now. If any one should be moving back up it should be Chris beniot or some one in the midcard level they should make you start from the bottom and work your way up and if you win you win. I see SD being better then WCW and then in its own way a WCW/ECW show. SD is boring they dont have any top tier wrestlers any more its all ruitine they cant have a show with a bunch of midcarders and say there you go.
They have one or 2 main event status wrestlers and im not so sad to say that undertake isnt one of them. He has had his time in the sun and now they just use him to squash the up and commers. The Undertaker hasnt had a decint fued in years even the last kane taker match they just fed taker to kane which is pretty messed up.
Booker T should also retire he is getting up there in age and he hasnt showed a quality match in months. They are using him in a bad fued or a bad angle ; the last good fued/angle that Booker T had was when he came to SD and he thought he was better then all the midcarders.
SD has been going down hill ever since the shows split if you notice they send all there old used up talent to SD and then they send all the big fan fave guys or guys that get alot of heat to raw. The shows need to reunite and then have a show that is 3 hours long like nitro ; they need to find a station that will alow them to air all there talent and not have single person bitch about it. Even though i dont get to watch SD i loved to read how much every one loves to hate the muhhamid hussan character he was the best thing that could have happpend to SD ever.
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JBL
Aug 1, 2005 8:29:39 GMT -5
Post by cactustrav77 on Aug 1, 2005 8:29:39 GMT -5
if they re-unite the shows and make it 3 hours long like nitro, what would be the difference from that and a PPV? when you order a PPV its supposed to be longer and better than the shows that everyone gets to see. look at what Nitro did, 3 hour show (which was usually better than the PPV) and a 3 hour PPV. plus, if they made it combined it would be all JBL and HHH with no time for anyone else.
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JBL
Aug 5, 2005 19:58:12 GMT -5
Post by DanielAbare86 on Aug 5, 2005 19:58:12 GMT -5
JBL neads to go back to hiis old charters an bling his tag team partner back.I like him better when he called him self bradshaw.One thin that is dumb is he complaining about hardcore wrestling.How can you complain aboout some thing when you did it youb self.he even had a custum wwe hardcore belt.
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JBL
Aug 6, 2005 5:44:56 GMT -5
Post by falcon522 on Aug 6, 2005 5:44:56 GMT -5
I personally love JBL( I check his website every week) He's got great charisma (being able to play a goof like when he got shot with the tranq, and serious) and has pretty good in ring skills. I agree with most of what JSD says hes just doing his job and although he is getting a bit stale there is definately no better heel main eventer on smackdown. With that said, however, JBL lucked out with this second title shot. No, not because he beat UT, but because Hassan was supposed to beat UT (with the help of Randy) and become number one contender. Now, thanks to the whole london attacks and "terrorist" attack on Smackdown that plan had to be scrapped. SO its not his fault that he happens to be the only heel available to take on Batista and still have a credible fued to be culminated at Summerslam (one of the biggest PPVs WWE has).
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JBL
Aug 6, 2005 6:01:12 GMT -5
Post by falcon522 on Aug 6, 2005 6:01:12 GMT -5
the only thing about JBL i respect is that he is there on every SD. well i guess that doesnt mean anything since wrestlers like christian work every show too. theres one thing im not clear on and maybe someone can fill me in on it. wasnt JBL one of the acolytes with farooq and they were part of the ministry/corperate ministry? then after farooq left he wrestled people like billy gunn and val venis (where he should be now) then faded into the midcard level. i guess SD must take a dart board and throw darts at it to see who the next big push was, because next is JBL. they are making SD turn into WCW with all the push on SD being of one character ( look at animals return and how the show was still all about JBL). as a matter of fact i bet i would rather watch WCW Thunder instead of SD right now. Talk about undeserved push. Animal's win over MNM is a joke. The only reason why they are giving him the tiltle is basically, and i may be being a bit harsh but out of pity and to bring in some nostalgia viewers. No show should ever be animal centric until he actually gets into shape, and not just run off of his "legend" status to get fans into the match. JBL gets shows centered around him because he fits the mold of a main eventer (hes big, hateable, and charismatic), and however that may suck for you its the truth. I would love to see Christian take his place but he is too small to carry the title, especially if the current holder is Batista.
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