Contradictory Rulings

[Butt Spawn]

Well, i'm on the same boat as Ace now. Once again, Creed makes an idiotic ruling that noone can agree with. First of all, he says if Girly Grab is made above 7d, it can't be reversed by Elbow, even though it explicity says it can, just like Hurrislam, even though it's already above 7d, it's still reversable by Elbow.

Now, another proof of his idiocy: a poster on TCO asked the question: "If Apply Illegal is played after Girly Grab, can it be reversed by Iron Will?"

Naturally, anyone knows the CORRECT answer is no, because Apply Illegal now has the text Can only be reversed by Elbow. So, i replied with that. However, he tells me i'm wrong because "Iron Will specifically says it can reverse Apply Illegal"

Therefore, he's saying "As long as a card says it can reverse X-card, it will always be able to reverse that card, regardless of modifications", so, why can't Elbow reverse a 7d+ Girly Grab, since it says CAN ONLY BE REVERSED BY ELBOW?

Man, that guy is a douchebag >.<

[destroyer]

Lol you called him a douchebag. Seriosuly guys big deal one bad ruling you guys don't seem to take notice the hundreds of good rulings he makes each set. But really some of the examples you mention are not contradictory as Hurrislam is different wording. Iron will is a different story. See the thing behind girly grab is that you need to follow the wording on the reversal card. Iron will says you can reverse Apply Illegal Leverage. Elbow says you can reverse any manuever of 7d or less. The rulings are really the same and not contridictory.

Atomic back body drop and its interaction with Neck Breaker is contridictory to the ruling. Thats really the only thing I could think of right now. But yes its somewhat of a bad ruling or a good one if you look it at another way. You guys seem to take the wording of the cards being played while the ruling team(yes Creed is not the only person in this) looks if the reversal allows you to play it.

Anyways the only douchebag here is bbq and lets just leave it at that.

[Butt Spawn]

Well, i understand the wordings are different, but that doesn't change the fact Apply Illegal explictily has the text "Can ONLY be reversed by elbow", and how in god's name Iron Will has it's title changed to Elbow To The Face i'll never know.

[theanswer]

destroyer said:

Anyways the only douchebag here is bbq and lets just leave it at that.

Isnt that flamming. Flamming by an enforcer, thats not very nice.

I dont see how you can compare it to Hurrislam as they have different wordingWhats the ruling on ABBD. I dont see what you mean. Are you talking about a a gut wrenched tilt a whirl powerslam? Cause, in that case, somehow neckbreaker can reverse it. THATS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. They have 2 different rulings there.
Thanks a lot creed.

Also, You can clean break an apply illegal leverage played after clutch. Does clean break say it can reverse apply? NO, it doesnt. And apply played after clutcg is worded the same way as girly grab. It says "Can only be reversed by cards that specifically reverse clutch onto opponent". Does, clean break reverse clutch, Yes, it says it does. Does it reverse apply? it shouldnt, but they say it does The ruling team sucks

[RawManiac]

theanswer said:

destroyer said:

Anyways the only douchebag here is bbq and lets just leave it at that.

No, he asked me if he could put that and I said yes. Plus with all the flaming BBq does, anyone who flames at BBQ gets free get out of jail cards.

[~Fusion~]

Seriously though, while you guys bitch about it, you could be thinking of a way to "break" the cards and use them to your advantage while the shitty rulings are still in effect. Try to use the shitty rulings that they make to your advantage.

[theanswer]

o, i already did break cards. Check the rey mysterio face card

[~Fusion~]

Which card are you talking about, i was specifically referring to the girly grab (should've mentioned it), but yeah i know what you mean.