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Post by eddieg on Jul 22, 2008 22:04:57 GMT -5
Bear with me, the questions may be confusing:
1.) The part of Tajiri's superstar ability in question is this: "discard 1 Action card from your hand to return 1 Maneuver card with the word "kick" in the title from your Ring area to your hand." Let's say for example Tajiri successfully plays a maneuver. He then plays "Stagger", which reads "Play after a successfully played maneuver. If your next card played this turn is a maneuver of 7D or less your opponent cannot reverse it." Let's say Tajiri plays "Kick" (5D), which is irreverisible and opponent overturns 5D. Can Tajiri discard an action from his hand, pick up that "Kick", and put it right back down as an irreversible card?? The reason I'm asking is because Stagger says that the "card" played is irreversible. Would that mean since the card is being reused, it is still irrerversible?
2.) When overturning damage, does the last card overturned still count? My friend and I are having a dispute. For example, he plays a 6 damage maneuver, and I overturn cards, the sixth one overturned is a reversal for it. He says his turn still continues as the damage has completely been fulfilled no matter what the sixth card is. I think that even though the damage has been fulfilled, since a reversal was overturned, his turn should at least end. What's the verdict?
Sorry for the long-winded questions. It's hard to describe them. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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Post by whitedragon on Jul 23, 2008 8:51:00 GMT -5
1.) The part of Tajiri's superstar ability in question is this: "discard 1 Action card from your hand to return 1 Maneuver card with the word "kick" in the title from your Ring area to your hand." Let's say for example Tajiri successfully plays a maneuver. He then plays "Stagger", which reads "Play after a successfully played maneuver. If your next card played this turn is a maneuver of 7D or less your opponent cannot reverse it." Let's say Tajiri plays "Kick" (5D), which is irreverisible and opponent overturns 5D. Can Tajiri discard an action from his hand, pick up that "Kick", and put it right back down as an irreversible card?? The reason I'm asking is because Stagger says that the "card" played is irreversible. Would that mean since the card is being reused, it is still irrerversible? Yes. Since you have already fulfilled the "can only be played..." text on Stagger, the card would go on to be irreversible. 2.) When overturning damage, does the last card overturned still count? My friend and I are having a dispute. For example, he plays a 6 damage maneuver, and I overturn cards, the sixth one overturned is a reversal for it. He says his turn still continues as the damage has completely been fulfilled no matter what the sixth card is. I think that even though the damage has been fulfilled, since a reversal was overturned, his turn should at least end. What's the verdict? Your opponent's turn would still end. While overturning for damage, every single card overturned counts. Convince your friend by showing the ruling for Stun Value where the attacking player do not get to draw cards if the card is reversed in the last card and effectively ending the player's turn.
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Post by eddieg on Jul 23, 2008 19:07:58 GMT -5
Thanks for your help!
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Post by nightguard on Jul 26, 2008 1:53:23 GMT -5
I think you misunderstood what he was asking about the situation with Stagger and Kick. He was asking could he play random maneuver of at least 3 damage, play stagger, play a kick as an irreversible maneuver, use Tajiri's ability to pick up said irreversable kick, then play it again a second time and have it still be irreversable. The answer to this is no. Once you've played the kick once, you've played a card after Stagger. If you pick up that kick with your ability and play it again, it doesn't 'remember' that it's the same kick. It's now a card being played after Kick, a 5D strike maneuver, not after Stagger, so it will be reversable as normal.
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Post by whitedragon on Jul 26, 2008 2:04:39 GMT -5
oh so that was what he meant. then NO you can't do that.
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Post by eddieg on Jul 27, 2008 22:12:37 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry for the confusion.
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